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Thailand's Reputation as a Sex Destination.
The Carter Perspective.
The Inside Story of the Thai Sex Industry.
Preface
This is the inside story of a very controversial topic. The writer has no affiliation
with any newspaper groups or political parties and so can write freely without editorial
or other pressure (to date) to "not mention that part please".
The writers opinion is just that - opinion. But remember, there are no facts in the
world, just opinions and illusions and opinions (and statistics). Nobody is right - Nobody
is wrong. This is the writers point of view.
This week read:-
The Media's Role in this representation.
Why have the media depicted Thailand thus?
What effect does media depiction have on Thailand?
What effect does media depiction have on The Industry?
Are foreign male journalist jealous of Thailand? (credit Vincent)
Are foreign female journalists simply neurotic about sex?
Kidnapped Children bonded in Slavery
Mum & Dad sell young Sally to the whoremarket.
The Media's Role in this representation/misrepresentation.Thailand is persistently
represented by the media (especially Television and Hollywood style movies) as little more
than a city of bars and whores. This is fact. Most movies that I see that have anything to
do with or set in Thailand persist in hanging around Patpong or some other disreputable
district of Bangkok.
This effect is broad. It has eaten down into the very beings of many Westerners and
they now see Asians in general and Thailand in particular as little more than flesh pots.
Sure there are many exceptions to this rule, but the rule remains albeit unquantified.
The Vietnam/US War brought S.E.Asia to the TV screens of the world. Many, many people,
especially in the USA did not know where Vietnam was on a map prior to the TV War that was
fought in Vietnam. They did not know where Asia was. The first media induced public taste
of S.E.Asian culture is well depicted by a popular US Marine "slogan" during
that war; "I came to see foreign countries, experience foreign culture, then fuck 'em
all and kill 'em."From the ashes of Vietnam and Cambodia was born a popular
western-male perception of S.E.Asia as a place where you could get laid REAL easy. How so?
Why so? Well, western males are so strung out about sex they need to go where they can
rape and pillage for 10 bucks a night and besides, "my buddy in the marines told me
so" (comment circa 1972)Why have the media depicted Thailand thus?
US military R&R in Thailand during the Vietnam war set the scene. When you have a
culture that accepts sex without too many personal hangups, and the boys from the boat are
flapping dollars at you like a year of your income in your face. The girls are just
sitting around the dry rice paddy doing nothing and they are itching for some fun anyway.
Well, what the hell! What's a fellow supposed to do? Go and fix it of course.From the
early 70's onward Thailand began to develop an image of being a flesh-pot, a place to get
laid. Men think primarily with and for their dicks. Sure there was other stuff there,
other business, but come on, we all knew it was THE place.
The media perpetuated this myth. Until the myth became reality. Was this intentional?
Did the Western man, with his attendant sexual hang-ups and obsession with "proving
his manhood" and his problems relating with the so-called "liberated"
Western women actually feel a NEED to find a place and escape to it? A place to flee from
his sexual bonds? To escape in dreams of "Exotic Asia"? The media is mostly
male. True? The big media bosses are mostly male? Correct? Did they create this imaginary
place because they couldn't get laid without a lot of social bullshit. Because they just
wanted a quick dip?
Whatever, what we know is what we are taught. And there is no doubt in my mind that a
large percentage of Westerners, especially but not exclusively male, think of "sex
holiday" when you mention "Thailand'.I remember sitting at a work acquaintance's
house in Melbourne, Australia some years ago. We were talking, having a cold beer; the
usual Saturday afternoon stuff. Usual except that he'd just split up with his wife and was
feeling used and abused.
A song came on the radio. It was a song from a musical called "Chess". You
know the song, surely? "One Night In Bangkok" was playing on the radio.
"One night in Bangkok and a hard man tumbles, not much between despair and
ecstasy", then "Oh you can go back to your bars, your massage parlours
I
get MY kicks above the waistline sunshine!"."Oh shit" I thought as I sat
there. I hated that song and what it was suggesting.
OK, so it's not supporting the perceived "sex industry":, it's criticising
it. The point is that here was the broader media presenting Thailand,
casually-off-the-cuff and for THEIR commercial gain as a place of "bars, temples and
massage parlours".Bangkok was being depicted in part of the story behind the musical
"Chess" as an unusual place to hold a chess tournament.
Why? Well, the sex of course. Because as this musical and it's accompanying hit record
"One Night In Bangkok" indicated, Thailand is a place where anything vaguely
cerebral could be seen as unusual because EVERYBODY is busy pursuing pussy and ass.The
song perpetuated the myth, the fantasy that Thailand is a "sex-on-ya-mind" kind
of destination. I was sitting thinking exactly that, and knowing how wrong it was when my
friend piped in with "Oh shit man, I'm heading over there!"."What
for?" I replied, "to join a monastery?". "Naaah, for the girls you
fuckwit" he answered me back, "my leaves due soon, I'm sick of Aussie bloody
shit-nosed women, I'm going to go get me one of those Asian girls you like so much
mate!".
Oh God. So there you had it. "Those Asian girls you like so much mate".
Thailand in a capsule. That's was the only reason he thought I'd go to Asia all the time
for. The only reason he could understand. And that understanding or lack thereof did not
come from being inundated by the media with cultural essays on Asia. His ignorance was
born of what he'd been fed by the media in Australia all his life. And behind the media,
the government. And behind them - him, my friend.What effect does this media
depiction have on Thailand?
Over the last few years, tourist arrival numbers have dropped significantly in
Thailand. Some people believe that this is due to (1) Thailand's depiction by the media as
a "sex destination" and (2) the onslaught of AIDS over the last two decades or
so.
People think "sex destination? - AIDS? - No Way!". The tourism industry is
affected negatively, the foreign dollar income is reduced, income levels drop, the girls
hit the streets again. 'Round and 'round it goes.Some people in Thailand believe that
foreign investment is deterred from Thailand sometimes due to the "sex"
reputation. Some boards of directors actually ARE that stuffy - and that ignorant. It's
catchy you know - ignorance I mean.
I know that one of the MD's of a previous employer of mine was prohibited by his wife
from coming to do a year of duty in Bangkok because "there are whores on every street
corner there, no way!". That was all she knew of Thailand, just that, "whores on
every corner".The firm in question had to pay a lot more money in the end to get an
equally qualified manager to attend their Bangkok offices.How do you think the Thais feel
knowing that (1) their country is depicted in this manner and (2) that it is all bullshit?
I can tell you it makes a proud people hurt. Thai people are very proud of their country,
their independence and their culture. And they know that the tag "flesh pot" is
unjust. But monetary necessity being what it is - Thais also know that Farangs are
strung-out about sex. And they DO know how to get money out of a strung-out Farang. Thais
know how to give too, but a fool may be taken for a ride in Thailand and the West is made
of fools.The Western media and the Western male built this particular flavour of Thailand.
The Thai people accept it in their very, very Thai way. But they don't like it. And
although popular opinion in certain circles may disagree, the Thais can live without the
money generated by the sex industry here.
The effect this negative media depiction has had, in my opinion, is to perpetuate the
distance between the East and the West in just another way.
What effect does media depiction have on The Industry?
The industry booms as usual. What happens when you make a big deal about criminalizing
marijuana? You get a profitable black-market. Smack, same thing. Flesh, same thing.
The legislators and their buddies the media have shoved another one down our throats
here. Another demonisation of something quite harmless. And this demonisation
intentionally brought about for other than the stated purposes. '
Not for profit this time though. This time to accommodate a neurosis.
The media did not and has not effected the industry in Thailand - it
created and perpetuates it.
The broader media needs to step back a bit and take a good look at a region of the
world that is wrought with troubles trying to come up to speed with what is perceived by
most to be "the modern world". Ancient cultures and social mores clash head-on
with the West's peculiar and often hypocritical behaviours. Take a close look and check
your perspective properly. Think about why things are what they are.
Are foreign male journalist jealous of Thailand? (credit Vincent)
Vincent and I discussed the reasons for the depiction of Thailand as a flesh pot by the
foreign media. Vincent has been around in Asia for years and is a respected person in his
field and in his home.
"Think about it" said Vincent as he sipped his morning coffee. "You are
a reporter, you get sent to do a story on Thailand. You are there three days. You get your
stuff. You meet some guys. You get laid by a wonderful young girl.".
"Yeah?" I replied, "so what, shit happens". "Ah yes"
Vincent retorted, "but now the young reporter goes home to his office in, say,
Frankfurt. It is cold beyond belief. He stares at the grey walls and the greyer sky. He
gets the shit up, gets pissed off with it all".
Vincent went on to explain that he thought that then, when this general attitude sank
in, the "home-returners" remembered the other Farangs living back there in Asia
and quite simply got jealous. This influenced their perceptions. The weather got colder
and attitude followed suite.
Yes, a simplistic theory fraught with lack of depth. Sure. But think about it. Think
about that cold office and your colleagues who had the nerve to hang out in a weird place
like S.E.Asia. If you were an average western male, you may well get jealous.
Are foreign female journalists simply neurotic about sex?
Another person I met, when questioned regarding the perception of Thailand as a
flesh-pot was heard to utter "it's those bleeding neurotic, dyke-feminist,
bitch-newspaper-writers all over the world". The boy has problems obviously, don't
need to tell me that.
His theory was that over the last fifty years some 30,000 female media employees lost
boyfriends and husbands, one way or the other, to "The Exotic East".
Hence, according to this theory, they became jealous and hateful of a whole region of
the world. This jealousy, perhaps even at a "you threaten my tribe" race-based
level, manifests itself in the flesh-pot image of S.E.Asia.
Can and do Western women deal well with the well known western male image of "The
Exotic and Erotic East"? Should they have to deal with it? Does it really exist in
the mainstream or is it a broad occurrence?
In my opinion, no, no, yes. But there you have it. That's life. You do have to deal
with it because like Mt Everest according to Hillary - "it's there".
Kidnapped Children bonded in Slavery
One man I met back in Australia had told me a lot about how many children were
kidnapped from the north of Thailand and doomed to work as servants in houses of
ill-repute. He went into great detail telling me all about it.
I asked him how he came to know all of this and apparently it had been in an article in
a leading Sydney newspaper. As the man stated, "it just has to be true then, doesn't
it?"
I can find no evidence of this practice in Thailand. I think it would be most unusual
indeed given the high count of street-children living in Bangkok alone. (one of the
highest counts in an urban area in the world). Why go to the trouble of kidnapping a kid
when there are tens of thousands of them hanging out just waiting for you to pick them up
and put them into slavery. Nobody cares if you just go and grab a kid from the heap. Do
they?
Mum & Dad sell young Sally to the whoremarket.
"Young girls are sold by their parent to pimps from the big cities."
As above, this practice is almost nonexistent - if it exists any more at all. There was
a time in most societies when trades were done, brides were given and/or sold, dowries
were set, made and laid. In some cultures it happens today, women are traded between
families and tribes to keep social and political balances. Somewhere in the history of
Thailand I am sure it happened.
But this is now and I have simply never heard of, seen or met any women who'd been sold
by her parents to a pimp.
This practice, if it still occurs at all, involves very, very poor hill tribe people
with no education whatsoever. If this practice occurs at all the families are paid some
money to feed the rest of the starving kids and these "girls" are taken to
houses, mainly in the northern cities of Thailand, that are attended by a clientele almost
exclusively Chinese-Thai and Thai.
The girls must go voluntarily. You simply cannot drag a screaming girl out of a
northern village. Just does not happen. The girls are then supposed to be in a position to
send money home to the family to feed and cloth the other kids.
After questioning many people regarding this matter I could find nobody who could
conclusively say they'd actually seen it happen. The stories are out there, I've heard
them.
But if it occurs at all it is both very rare and an extremely small operation. In all
the time I have been in and out of South East Asia I have never come across any evidence
to suggest that this practice goes beyond very small and secret parts of society.
Come back next week and read on. There are more bent attitudes in store, more warped
perspectives. Read up! You just might learn something! ----------------------------------------------------------- All Fools
A story of the cannibal island
Blessings
A story of what few blessings life has to offer us. Count 'em
Buffalo
Buffalo fighting on Koh Samui in Thailand
Busted Want
to hear something really scary?
Cannibal
Cannibals? Sure, in Fiji there are, maybe.Shit, it tasted
just like pickled pork anyway!
Chopper
Chopper runs in Bangkok
Elephants
Elephants in Bangkok (no they were not pink and yes I was sober.
More or less sober that is.)
Fullmoon
"Hey nice T-Shirt dude!". Full moon parties on Koh Phangaan
Hashrun
The Hash House Harriers strike again! This time it's "champagne
hash" though!
Hooligan
Mate of mine got his head smashed in by some soccer hooligans on
holiday here.
Morning
Mornings in Bangkok. On the way to work
PCs in the tropics
Advice for the owners of PCs in tropical regions
Search About Thomas
and votes
SEX1 Ah. The "sex"
topic. By request, I wrote about Thailand's reputed "sex industry".
Here 'tis.
SEX2
SEX3
Sex4
Sex5
Slaughter
And you think the traffic is bad in Bangkok? Try Samui!
Survival
How to survive in the tropics. This IS funny.
The Change
Times change. Sure they do, but it pissed Joey right off this time!
The Run
Finally, the chopper run!
Trains Trains
in Thailand are a serious trip dudes!
Troppo Gone
troppo mate! Totally!
Upcountry
Like it says, up-country in Thailand on a small-ish motorcycle
Victim Victim
of one's own desires
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